Want another PUG!!!

Hi. I just found out about this group. We just moved back to Kailua from Las Vegas. We have a black pug named Cash (Johnny Cash). We would love to find another pug & playmate for Cash. Does anyone know where I can find a breeder?

Thanks so much & I look forward to meeting new people & new pug friends for Cash!!!

Mahalo,
Adrian

You should talk to April. She can help you find a Pug. she is a big part of the Pug rescue here on the island. There is a form to fill out (that April can email you) and she will come and interview you to make sure that you and your place are Pug friendly. she says that she gets all ages, so you may get exactly what you want and maybe miss the potty training period! Good luck!!! -Kelley

Hey Adrian,
It's SO good to have another group member living in Kailua!!!!! :) How old your pug? I'm always looking for a play date for Luke because he loves socializing with other dogs - at the meetups, he prances around like he's the king hahaha. Message me if you ever want to get together.
-Sia

Adrian,
I got your message but my email is messed up again. I will send you info as soon as it is back up and running. I don't have any pugs available for adoption but I am sure one or two will pop up soon. It has been rather quiet....thank God for that.... I do have people on other islands on the look out so be patient.
Thanks April

Hi Adrian,
I still have the male available if you're interested. He's 6 weeks old now, so he's ready to be picked up..
Call me at 936-0899 or 443-4115

Thx.

I won't get in a discusion over breeding, but everything I've learned from reputable breeders or pug literature indicates that 6wks is too early to let a puppy go.
Puppies that are removed from the nest too early frequently are nervous, more prone to barking and biting and have a more difficult time with socialization and training. Puppies need to be left with Mom and siblings until at least 7-8 weeks of age - and preferably a little longer -for optimum social development.

Experts say that the best time in a puppy?s life to learn social skills is between 3 and 16 weeks of age ? that?s the window of opportunity you have to make sure your puppy grows up to be a well-adjusted dog.

Yhey need the time to learn proper behavior from their mother and siblings. A great many of the biting issues would never come up if the pups had been left with their mother and littermates to learn when biting is okay and when it's not.

The Pug Club of America stated that pug puppies need to be with their mothers and littermates until they are 12 weeks old, and should not be brought home prior to this time.
I realize that every situation is different, but buyers should be aware of the rationale behind some of this prudent advice.

I agree 100% with Pat!

Also, the longer they are nursing (even off and on after going on regular food) the stronger their immune system.

6 weeks? That's crazy. And I'm not sure it's legal. There was a sign in a pet store here that specified the lowest legal age, but I can't remember what it said. I thought it said 8 weeks.

The reputable breeders who are trying to better the breed will not let their puppies go any earlier then 8 weeks. It is unfortunate that breeders in Hawaii are more concerned about making the quick $$ and not about there pugs or their off spring. I am also concerned with this lady who is breeding these pugs because she contacted me almost a year ago looking for a rescue.
I have never heard about an age limit being illegal, but it is very unhealthy and usually means the breeder is not an experienced breeder or could care less.

When I was growing up, I remember the mantra was always 6 weeks for puppies and 8-10 weeks for kittens. My first dog (mixed breed chow) we got at 6 weeks and he was confident and ready to go. Our second dog (also mixed breed) was also 6 weeks and in retrospect, knowing what I know now, I think she probably would have been better off staying with mom a few weeks longer. She was very small and shy.

Now to pugs: After Roswell had her first litter, I was still kind of on that 6 weeks mind set, but neither she or the pups were ready at 6 weeks. She was still happily nursing off and on and the pups just didn't seem ready. I think we ended up keeping them until around 10 weeks, maybe even longer, and that seemed about right for us and for her. With subsequent litters we did the same thing, and just watched until she and they seemed ready, which was usually around 10 weeks. Maybe it depends on the dog or the breed as to the appropriate time to separate mom and pup, but I think a reputable person would have both the momma and the pups in mind when making this decision, and will pick a time that works for everyone, because they're living babies, not items for sale.

Hawaiian Dog Fanciers Guidelines for Responsible Breeders

I would like to highlight:

All dogs will be sold with written contracts with specifications, guarantees or restrictions. The contract will ensure that the breeder will be contacted if an owner can no longer keep the dog at any time in the dog's life and that the breeder will find a new home for the dog.

and

All puppies leaving the breeder's possession shall be a minimum of seven (7) weeks of age.

Also,

Pups and kittens find play limits

highlighting...

"Pets who have been properly socialized until at least 8 weeks of age make the best companions,"

and

"You might be tempted to adopt them out when they are just 5 or 6 weeks old," said Wendy Mah, animal behaviorist with Sirius Puppy Training. "But those last weeks make such a big difference for the rest of their lives. ...