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Reaction to earlier bee string.

Karla
Posted Nov 8, 2009 11:04 AM
PugGrl
Longview, WA
Post #: 1,331
Just to clarify, and like Brandi said, Benadryl is great for bug bites and bee stings and I always give it right afterword. However, I thought you gave the medicine hours after the sting and when the pug was nauseous, which Benadryl can make worse. Hope Im not confusing anyone.

Brandi, I thought Pepto was not good for pugs. One of the ingredients can wreak havoc on their stomachs. Have you heard that before or am I just remembering incorrectly? I've never given it, but thought I'd heard this before.

Karla
Jen
Posted Nov 8, 2009 12:47 PM
pugalugalong
Mission, BC
Post #: 1,547
It was Anne who questioned the pepto not Brandi smile
Brandi
Posted Nov 8, 2009 1:02 PM
ShelnicsPugs
Mission, BC
Post #: 1,341
Pepto is not really all that good for any dog in large amount or everyday use, If i remember correctly it has a asprin base so you have to use it sparingly. I prefer to use Kaopectate if I have to.
Amber
Posted Nov 8, 2009 1:15 PM
PugInBlack
Paradise, CA
Post #: 844
There is a wide range for dosing anywhere from 0.5 to 2 mg per pound (1 to 4 mg/kg) orally two to three times daily or 0.5 to 1 mg per pound (1 to 2 mg/kg) IM, IV or SC twice daily. So for a 10 lb pug you can give 18mg for a 15 lb pug you can give 27 mg, she gave 25 mg which is fine

Edited to add: you can also use Diphenhydramine to treat motion sickness and vomiting
For diphenhydramine this is true, but when using benadryl some varieties contain phenylalamine (very poor sp?) which makes it to where you have to dose lower.
Brandi
Posted Nov 8, 2009 1:52 PM
ShelnicsPugs
Mission, BC
Post #: 1,344
phenylalamine is a sweetener added to children's Benadryl contains {ex. phenylalanine 4.2 mg/tablet; grape flavor} has nothing to do with a adult dosing unless you are giving a children's chew able which most people don't give

Edited: because I can not spell this morning biggrin
Jen
Posted Nov 8, 2009 2:07 PM
pugalugalong
Mission, BC
Post #: 1,549
There is a wide range for dosing anywhere from 0.5 to 2 mg per pound (1 to 4 mg/kg) orally two to three times daily or 0.5 to 1 mg per pound (1 to 2 mg/kg) IM, IV or SC twice daily. So for a 10 lb pug you can give 18mg for a 15 lb pug you can give 27 mg, she gave 25 mg which is fine

Edited to add: you can also use Diphenhydramine to treat motion sickness and vomiting
For diphenhydramine this is true, but when using benadryl some varieties contain phenylalamine (very poor sp?) which makes it to where you have to dose lower.

phenylalamine is a sweetener added to children's Benadryl contains {ex. phenylalanine 4.2 mg/tablet; grape flavor} has nothing to do with a adult dosing unless you are giving a children's chew able which most people don't give

Edited: because I can not spell this morning biggrin


LOL! Such a big word for sweetener! Who woulda thunk!
Carla
Posted Nov 8, 2009 2:57 PM
user 6229112
Hermiston, OR
Post #: 4,777
I am glad she is on the mend, scary stuff.
Amber
Posted Nov 8, 2009 4:42 PM
PugInBlack
Paradise, CA
Post #: 850
You would be surprised at what they put into this stuff and what they call it.

A lot of what doesn't affect people will affect animals differently, just as many pet owners have learned with their chewing gum containing a sweetener called xylitol, which kills animals. Phenylalanine does not affect pets in the same way as xylitol but if you are using a diphenhydramine based product containing phenylalanine you do want to be careful. You have to adjust the dose of the product based on the diphenhydramine and the phenylalanine which will cause you to have to give a lower dose of the diphenhydramine to accomodate the top range dosage of the phenylalanine. Benadryl contains dipenhydramine but is not pure dipenhydramine so you cannot dose the benadryl at the same rate you would pure dipenhydramine. Some forms also include other drugs that you need to be aware of when figuring the dosage of this product, and the one that I worry about is the phenylalanine.

What people don't realize is that not only is phenylalanine an amino acid found in the brain, it is comprised of 50% aspertame and is very similar in makeup to dopamine.
Trish
Posted Nov 8, 2009 7:28 PM
luvour5pugs
Laguna Niguel, CA
Post #: 1,889
Stella had a vaccine reaction to a rabies shot, she vomited two times in a row, I sat down wondering what was wrong, she started rubbing her face in the carpet looked up at me and her face was blowing up! luckily she was at the vet still, they rushed her in and started her on an IV, a shot of bendril and wanted to keep her for observation for a couple of hours. They were afraid what was going on inside her, on her organs, since she vomited.

Its kinda late now but Id give benedril. Stella also had a bee sting last spring, she again had a reaction, I gave her a pill, took a nap, it was 5:00am to wait to take her in to the vet, woke up and she was fine. I took her in anyhow they checked her over and told me to give it to her twice a day for a couple days.

I keep benedril around for me, my dogs and my horse!!! ;)
Anne
Posted Nov 8, 2009 7:50 PM
DustyrosePugs
Milton, ON
Post #: 1,197
Thanks for responding Trish. I think Shirley is right and we just have a mild "Pug bug".

I do always have Benadryl and Prednisone on hand for an emergency allergic reaction but now in hind sight, I don't think Ching was reacting to the bee sting.
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